Cinder vs S 4500-N
Where Cinder belongs to Benjamin Moore's range, S 4500-N is a NCS color. These are both greys, so the question isn't which hue to choose — it's where within grey to land. S 4500-N (LRV 27) reflects noticeably more light than Cinder (LRV 24), a difference of 3 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. Cinder runs red while S 4500-N is decidedly neutral, which means they'll respond very differently to warm vs cool light sources. The ΔE 3.5 gap is real but not dramatic — close enough to use together, distinct enough to matter as a choice. Below you'll find 2 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.
Cinder vs S 4500-N in Real Spaces
2 real rooms side by side. Cinder and S 4500-N are close enough that the difference can be hard to judge from a chip alone — these photos show how each reads at scale, across different spaces and lighting conditions.
Bathroom
Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. The distinction reads clearly at room scale, making the choice between them concrete.
Color Details
Cinder vs S 4500-N Simulated Comparison
5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Cinder on one side and S 4500-N on the other.
Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.
More Cinder comparisons
See how Cinder stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.
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Hardwick White reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.
At LRV 84 vs 24, Pure White is decisively the brighter choice.
Balboa Mist reflects far more light (LRV 66 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.
Shoji White reflects far more light (LRV 74 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.
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