Etcetera vs Pigeon

EtceteraCloverdale PaintvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 23.1Distinct difference

Etcetera is a Cloverdale Paint color while Pigeon comes from Farrow & Ball. Etcetera reads as pink, while Pigeon reads as grey — two distinct hue families, not close cousins. At LRV 63 vs 51, Etcetera will read as the brighter of the two — a 12-point gap that matters most in north-facing or low-light rooms. At ΔE 23.1, these are genuinely distinct colors — a strong contrast if used together, or a meaningful choice between two different directions. Below you'll find 3 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Etcetera vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

3 real rooms side by side. Seeing Etcetera and Pigeon in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

Living rooms test a color across a full range of conditions — morning sun, afternoon shade, and evening lamp light all shift how both of these read. Etcetera returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

EtceteraEtcetera 1203 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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Bedroom

Bedroom walls are often seen under warm artificial light, a context that shifts both colors from how they look on a chip. The LRV gap is large enough that Etcetera will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Pigeon would.

EtceteraEtcetera 1203 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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Bathroom

Bathrooms amplify color — the enclosed space and reflective surfaces make what reads subtle elsewhere feel more present here. The LRV gap is large enough that Etcetera will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Pigeon would.

EtceteraEtcetera 1203 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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Color Details

Etcetera
Cloverdale Paint · 1203
LRV63.0
BrandCloverdale Paint
Number1203
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessLight
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Etcetera vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Etcetera on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Etcetera comparisons

See how Etcetera stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Etcetera
Ammonite
Etcetera
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite reads slightly lighter (LRV 69 vs 63), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

White Dove
Etcetera
White Dove
Etcetera
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

At LRV 83 vs 63, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Iron Ore
Etcetera
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

At LRV 63 vs 6, Etcetera is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Purbeck Stone
Etcetera
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Etcetera reads slightly lighter (LRV 63 vs 52), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Etcetera
Evergreen Fog
Etcetera
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Etcetera reflects far more light (LRV 63 vs 30), opening up a space where Evergreen Fog encloses it.

Etcetera
Mizzle
Etcetera
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

A 11-point LRV gap (63 vs 52) makes Etcetera the marginally brighter of the two.

Etcetera
Agreeable Gray
Etcetera
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

With LRVs of 63 and 60, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Etcetera
Accessible Beige
Etcetera
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

A 5-point LRV gap (63 vs 58) makes Etcetera the marginally brighter of the two.

Etcetera
Denim Drift
Etcetera
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

At LRV 63 vs 27, Etcetera is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
French Gray
Etcetera
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Etcetera reflects far more light (LRV 63 vs 43), opening up a space where French Gray encloses it.

Etcetera
Naval
Etcetera
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Etcetera reflects far more light (LRV 63 vs 4), opening up a space where Naval encloses it.

Etcetera
Tranquil Dawn
Etcetera
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

A 8-point LRV gap (63 vs 55) makes Etcetera the marginally brighter of the two.

Etcetera
Bancha
Etcetera
Bancha
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

At LRV 63 vs 13, Etcetera is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Hardwick White
Etcetera
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

At LRV 63 vs 44, Etcetera is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Pure White
Etcetera
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 63), opening up a space where Etcetera encloses it.

Etcetera
Artichoke
Etcetera
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Etcetera reflects far more light (LRV 63 vs 21), opening up a space where Artichoke encloses it.

Balboa Mist
Etcetera
Balboa Mist
Etcetera
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 66 vs 63), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Etcetera
Shoji White
Etcetera
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

A 11-point LRV gap (74 vs 63) makes Shoji White the marginally brighter of the two.

Etcetera
Snowbound
Etcetera
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 63, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Pewter Green
Etcetera
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

At LRV 63 vs 12, Etcetera is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Duck Green
Etcetera
Duck Green
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

At LRV 63 vs 8, Etcetera is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Skimming Stone
Etcetera
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

A 5-point LRV gap (68 vs 63) makes Skimming Stone the marginally brighter of the two.

Etcetera
Dix Blue
Etcetera
Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Etcetera reflects far more light (LRV 63 vs 41), opening up a space where Dix Blue encloses it.

Etcetera
Hicks' Blue
Etcetera
Hicks' Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Etcetera vs Hicks' Blue

Etcetera
Slaked Lime Deep
Etcetera
Slaked Lime Deep
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Etcetera vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Etcetera
Vintage Vogue
Etcetera
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

At LRV 63 vs 12, Etcetera is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Livid
Etcetera
Livid
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Etcetera vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Etcetera
Saybrook Sage
Etcetera
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

At LRV 63 vs 45, Etcetera is decisively the brighter choice.

Etcetera
Pale Green
Etcetera
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Etcetera reflects far more light (LRV 63 vs 31), opening up a space where Pale Green encloses it.

Etcetera
Pine Needle
Etcetera
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
Etcetera
1203 · LRV 63

Etcetera reflects far more light (LRV 63 vs 7), opening up a space where Pine Needle encloses it.