Lasting Thoughts vs Surfin'
Where Lasting Thoughts belongs to Cloverdale Paint's range, Surfin' is a Sherwin-Williams color. Both sit in the blue family, which is useful context if you're narrowing within a single hue direction. Lasting Thoughts (LRV 51) reflects noticeably more light than Surfin' (LRV 46), a difference of 5 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. The ΔE 4.5 gap is real but not dramatic — close enough to use together, distinct enough to matter as a choice. Below you'll find 1 real-room photo comparison where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.
Lasting Thoughts vs Surfin' in Real Spaces
1 real room side by side. Lasting Thoughts and Surfin' are close enough that the difference can be hard to judge from a chip alone — these photos show how each reads at scale, across different spaces and lighting conditions.
Bedroom
The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Lasting Thoughts reads slightly lighter here — a subtle but real difference in how open the space feels.
Color Details
Lasting Thoughts vs Surfin' Simulated Comparison
5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Lasting Thoughts on one side and Surfin' on the other.
Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.
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