Subway vs Pigeon

SubwayCloverdale PaintvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 32.9Very different colors

Where Subway belongs to Cloverdale Paint's range, Pigeon is a Farrow & Ball color. These are both greys, so the question isn't which hue to choose — it's where within grey to land. Pigeon (LRV 51) reflects noticeably more light than Subway (LRV 8), a difference of 43 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. With a ΔE of 32.9, the contrast is hard to miss. These aren't variations on a theme — they're two different answers to the same question. Below you'll find 3 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Subway vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

3 real rooms side by side. Seeing Subway and Pigeon in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The LRV gap is large enough that Pigeon will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Subway would.

SubwaySubway 0536 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon living room inspiration

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Bedroom

The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Pigeon reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Subway.

SubwaySubway 0536 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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PigeonPigeon bedroom

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Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. Pigeon reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Subway.

SubwaySubway 0536 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon bathroom paint review

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Color Details

Subway
Cloverdale Paint · 0536
LRV8.0
BrandCloverdale Paint
Number0536
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessDark
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Subway vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Subway on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Subway comparisons

See how Subway stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Subway
Ammonite
Subway
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

White Dove
Subway
White Dove
Subway
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 83 vs 8, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Iron Ore
Subway
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 8 vs 6), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Subway
Purbeck Stone
Subway
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Purbeck Stone reflects far more light (LRV 52 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

Subway
Evergreen Fog
Subway
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Evergreen Fog reflects far more light (LRV 30 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

Subway
Mizzle
Subway
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

At LRV 52 vs 8, Mizzle is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Agreeable Gray
Subway
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Agreeable Gray reflects far more light (LRV 60 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

Subway
Accessible Beige
Subway
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 58 vs 8, Accessible Beige is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Denim Drift
Subway
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 27 vs 8, Denim Drift is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
French Gray
Subway
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

French Gray reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

Subway
Naval
Subway
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Subway reads slightly lighter (LRV 8 vs 4), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Subway
Tranquil Dawn
Subway
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 55 vs 8, Tranquil Dawn is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Bancha
Subway
Bancha
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

A 5-point LRV gap (13 vs 8) makes Bancha the marginally brighter of the two.

Subway
Hardwick White
Subway
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 44 vs 8, Hardwick White is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Pure White
Subway
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

Subway
Artichoke
Subway
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Artichoke reflects far more light (LRV 21 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

Balboa Mist
Subway
Balboa Mist
Subway
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 66 vs 8, Balboa Mist is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Shoji White
Subway
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 74 vs 8, Shoji White is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Snowbound
Subway
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 8, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Pewter Green
Subway
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

A 4-point LRV gap (12 vs 8) makes Pewter Green the marginally brighter of the two.

Subway
Duck Green
Subway
Duck Green
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 8 vs 8), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Subway
Skimming Stone
Subway
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 68 vs 8, Skimming Stone is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Dix Blue
Subway
Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Dix Blue reflects far more light (LRV 41 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

Subway
Hicks' Blue
Subway
Hicks' Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Subway vs Hicks' Blue

Subway
Slaked Lime Deep
Subway
Slaked Lime Deep
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Subway vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Subway
Vintage Vogue
Subway
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

A 4-point LRV gap (12 vs 8) makes Vintage Vogue the marginally brighter of the two.

Subway
Livid
Subway
Livid
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

Subway vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Subway
Saybrook Sage
Subway
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

At LRV 45 vs 8, Saybrook Sage is decisively the brighter choice.

Subway
Pale Green
Subway
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Pale Green reflects far more light (LRV 31 vs 8), opening up a space where Subway encloses it.

Subway
Pine Needle
Subway
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
Subway
0536 · LRV 8

With LRVs of 8 and 7, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.